本帖最後由 C9.99 於 2013-11-29 13:58 編輯
今次我們會嘗試用Photobucket上載raw file給大家下載，試試兩者間之比較!
This time, we will try to upload raw files on Photobucket for you to download, so you will get a better insight and comparison!
已經有800e,睇完後有少少想買返部F6或F3:loveliness:
借問聲，快門聲是F3 咁嘈?
viewfinder 情緒度，對比 F3又點？
:o:o
Summilux 發表於 2013-11-28 16:30
借問聲，快門聲是F3 咁嘈?
viewfinder 情緒度，對比 F3又點？
我未玩过F3....同FM2比就得，因手頭剛有一部！
Looking forward :)
本帖最後由 C9.99 於 2013-11-29 13:59 編輯
今次用以為兩部机作A/B比較的是一枝Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2 最早期, 序號只有3個數字, uncoated的版本, 在色彩 方面的反差是比一般有coating的低，但細節充足, 加上此鏡已被改成雙頭龍, 分別可用Leica M連動, 以及Nikon F口, 所以测試比較結果的準確度會較高用兩枝同欵但不同卡口的鏡頭作測試更為準確!
The lens we will use in A/B comparison test is the earliest uncoated version of Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2 with only 3-digit serial number. Although its colour contrast is lower than the coated version, it can highlight the details of objects. Moreover, using this Kinoptik which is modified for dual proposes (Leica M mount with rangefiner coupling and Nikon F mount) can enhance the accuracy of test result comparing with using two same type of lenses with different mounts.
好期待:loveliness:
本帖最後由 C9.99 於 2013-11-29 14:15 編輯
以下是 A/B 比較圖片, 圖片在Auto WB及相同的設定值下所拍攝的, 謝謝!
The following photos for A/B comprison are taken under Auto WB with same settings, enjoy!
by Nikon DF
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by Nikon DF jpeg, ISO200, 1/250sec
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3806/11097936373_fb0a3eeb76_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Nikon DF
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 jpeg, ISO200, 1/250sec
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3737/11098139773_effdb6cf7d_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 (由 Flickr DNG 轉 jpeg), ISO200, 1/250sec
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7389/11098025216_8c5d881f0a_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
以下是把A/B比較圖片放大供參考銳利度的, 謝謝!
The following cropped A/B photos may help you to compare the sharpness of two cameras:
by Nikon DF
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by Nikon DF jpeg, ISO200, 1/250sec
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3802/11099169525_a521a92412_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Nikon DF
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 jpeg, ISO200, 1/250sec
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3818/11099260156_ed9aca50e5_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 (由 Flickr DNG 轉 jpeg), ISO200, 1/250sec
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5515/11100009824_be7e131802_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
Wow the M9 is MUCH better.
zodiac_111 發表於 2013-11-28 20:11
Wow the M9 is MUCH better.
其實用M9 CCD同Df CMOS比較有點不公平, 原因係部M240我帶左去德國所以冇得即時比較, 但版主Pandachief會於較後時間作補充, 大家忍一忍先..
本帖最後由 C9.99 於 2013-11-29 14:24 編輯
再放大一些供參考銳利度的, 謝謝!
Photos are zoom-in for comparing the image sharpness:
by Nikon DF
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by Nikon DF jpeg, ISO200, 1/250sec
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7396/11099767435_ae624c29b6_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Nikon DF
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 jpeg, ISO200, 1/250sec
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3688/11099767485_88a47862b0_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 (由 Flickr DNG 轉 jpeg), ISO200, 1/250sec
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2809/11100029303_4b04664e09_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
本帖最後由 C9.99 於 2013-11-29 14:50 編輯
加一組A/B比較圖, Nikon DF是1660萬像素, 而M9則是1850萬像素, 但初步看來Nikon DF的畫質比較細緻。
One more set of A/B photos is added. Comparing briefly to Leica M9 with 18-megapixel CCD sensor, the image detailness of Nikon DF seems higher with 16.2-megapixel CMOS sensor.
by Nikon DF
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by Nikon DF jpeg, ISO200, 1/125sec
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5522/11097795466_6fe6f56c41_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Nikon DF
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9jpeg, ISO200, 1/125sec
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3779/11097966066_7a5068b47c_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 (由 Flickr DNG 轉 jpeg), ISO200, 1/125sec
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7341/11097892775_c96ccaf13d_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
本帖最後由 charliebrown88 於 2013-11-28 21:14 編輯
C9.99 發表於 2013-11-28 20:44
加一組A/B比較圖, Nikon DF是1660萬像素, 而M9則是1850萬像素, 但初步看來Nikon DF的畫質比較細緻。
by Ni ...
呢張地拖相, DF又是Sharp,detail 啲喎. 但之前人像, M9 又似細緻啲 (頭髮), 膚色正常啲喎{:5_260:}
本帖最後由 C9.99 於 2013-11-29 15:06 編輯
以下是把A/B比較圖片的焦點及角位放大供參, 謝謝!
Focus point and corner in A/B photos are enlarged and shown below for your reference:
by Nikon DF
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by Nikon DF jpeg, ISO200, 1/125sec
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5513/11100436683_4f1a18ec5c_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Nikon DF
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 jpeg, ISO200, 1/125sec
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5503/11100351146_ec8f2a8f6f_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 (由 Flickr DNG 轉 jpeg), ISO200, 1/125sec
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7417/11100414274_7435c19f26_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
by Nikon DF
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by Nikon DF jpeg, ISO200, 1/125sec
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3736/11100436523_a0fdc5c5c2_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Nikon DF
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 jpeg, ISO200, 1/125sec
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3743/11100461073_80ed4bf35a_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 (由 Flickr DNG 轉 jpeg), ISO200, 1/125sec
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2885/11100505483_0bc895b0d8_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
by Nikon DF
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by Nikon DF jpeg, ISO200, 1/125sec
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2851/11100436453_bd0234eaee_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Nikon DF
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 jpeg, ISO200, 1/125sec
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5543/11100351026_aab67c3ab1_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 (由 Flickr DNG 轉 jpeg), ISO200, 1/125sec
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7374/11100394846_9d9583fcc6_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
我無時間做 AB test
在 out-of-box battery ran out 之前 打了一張，個 mood 唔錯
Lens: Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2
Good work Ming!
本帖最後由 C9.99 於 2013-11-29 15:07 編輯
再加一組A/B比較圖, 謝謝!
One more set of A/B photos is posted, enjoy!
by Nikon DF
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by Nikon DF jpeg, ISO200, 1/80sec
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3825/11097801016_b62b4eb96d_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Nikon DF
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 jpeg, ISO200, 1/90sec
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5523/11098012414_d225e2a637_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 (由 Flickr DNG 轉 jpeg), ISO200, 1/90sec
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5475/11098101983_4fee8bdc41_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
本帖最後由 C9.99 於 2013-11-29 15:11 編輯
以下是把A/B比較圖片放大供參考銳利度的, 謝謝!
Here are the cropped A/B photos from the focus point for comparing the sharpness of two cameras:
by Nikon DF
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by Nikon DF jpeg, ISO200, 1/80sec
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7319/11100596114_ede801216c_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Nikon DF
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 jpeg, ISO200, 1/90sec
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5550/11100688423_4b1eea4f9c_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
by Leica M9
Kinoptik Apochromat 50mm f/2, @f/2, by M9 (由 Flickr DNG 轉 jpeg), ISO200, 1/90sec
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5530/11100577476_bbc45925f0_b.jpg
Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDead 的 by Leica M9
利是封,M9通透,而人物也見到M9顏色還原力比Df好,後面的草等
但Df則是人物膚色討喜,利,有多d細節(動態有無開?)
以上是個人感覺
K50 on M9 could be much shaaarrrrrppperrrrrr