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35mm Summilux asph pre-FLE vs 50mm Summilux asph late version

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發表於 2015-9-20 00:23:42 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
Ignore the different focus length issue, which one would perform and more practical in low light handheld condition?
Both lenses have been replaced by the newest models (FLE and 50mm APO), however, what other people online are saying that they have the best bokeh in 35mm and 50mm.
The 35mm summilux have focus shift problem but seem this is minor otherwise it would not be able to sell in second hands market for a long time now.

Which one would you choose base on sharpness, bokeh, practical at f1.4? Is there any reason not to get any of them?
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發表於 2015-9-20 08:48:56 | 顯示全部樓層
on digital it would be the 50mm asph.  optically excellent with smooth bokeh.
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發表於 2015-9-20 13:01:16 | 顯示全部樓層
Both excellent lens. Depends on situation and subject.
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-9-20 14:12:33 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 redrede 於 2015-9-20 14:18 編輯

Thank you inzite Hing and Sawlo Hing for your reply. It was a late night and I didn't extend the reason behind the question. I have a voigtlander 35mm f1.2 apparently is doing the job, both in day and low light situation. However the more I shoot with this lens, more of the photos are soft and giving me classic feel while wide open, love it but sometimes I just want to capture the landscape or decorations inside the house and this beautiful lens just not sharp enough (or not pop enough for my taste), especially when I compared it to my old 50mm summicron DR. Then again extra f stop would be helpful in low light situation for 50mm (with film).
So I have ask myself if I kinda upgrade my 35mm gear or should I get 50mm f1.4 cover?
50mm APO is the king of sharpness but there is not much different with film and doesn't help for one more f stop. The 35mm summilux FLE have fixed the focus shift problem but with the previous one I could use live view digital to actually adjust it myself.
So base on the all four, which one would everybody use most? Which one actually give best sharpness in low light condition (in practical way)? Thank you

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Even I'm young, my hands shake like hell >.<  發表於 2015-9-21 16:08
I will post some recent photos for you to take a look. For day light landscape is fantastic, but when there is indoor photo using f1.2, f1.4 its become soft  發表於 2015-9-21 16:07
要全開.... 50luxA是很不錯的  發表於 2015-9-21 16:00
据說v.2比v.1 sharp多了, 不知道原來还不能滿足到你.  發表於 2015-9-21 15:59
VM 35/1.2 ver 2 I have  發表於 2015-9-20 18:01
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發表於 2015-9-20 23:01:51 | 顯示全部樓層
redrede 發表於 2015-9-20 14:12
Thank you inzite Hing and Sawlo Hing for your reply. It was a late night and I didn't extend the rea ...

considering the above, i would vote for 50 asph
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-9-20 23:10:49 | 顯示全部樓層
inzite 發表於 2015-9-20 23:01
considering the above, i would vote for 50 asph

Thanks inzite Hing, I'm more toward the 50mm asph for the last day too
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發表於 2015-9-21 05:32:20 | 顯示全部樓層
redrede 發表於 2015-9-20 23:10
Thanks inzite Hing, I'm more toward the 50mm asph for the last day too

i think it's the best choice if you can work with a 50mm focal length.

i just came back from disneyworld and i took my a7s with the 50 asph as well.

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發表於 2015-9-21 06:01:40 | 顯示全部樓層
35 1.4 FLE has nice bokeh too

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 樓主| 發表於 2015-9-21 07:47:13 | 顯示全部樓層
inzite 發表於 2015-9-21 05:32
i think it's the best choice if you can work with a 50mm focal length.

i just came back from disn ...

Thank you inzite Hing, your photos are outstanding regardless what lens you use, I have seeing your photo for many years
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-9-21 07:50:45 | 顯示全部樓層
JCR33 發表於 2015-9-21 06:01
35 1.4 FLE has nice bokeh too

Yes thank you JCR Hing, 35mm would give me more space to work with too, but then again I have already got VM 35m f1.2, so it is really hard to convince myself to get this gem.
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發表於 2015-9-21 10:29:09 | 顯示全部樓層
redrede 發表於 2015-9-21 07:47
Thank you inzite Hing, your photos are outstanding regardless what lens you use, I have seeing you ...

thank you ching for the kind comments.  waiting to see your shots with the new lens ;)
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發表於 2015-9-21 21:49:24 | 顯示全部樓層
Both of them are excellent lenses, but I am afraid of oil leakage problem on aperture blades, so I chose 35/1.4 FLE.

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Really!!?  發表於 2015-9-21 22:23
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發表於 2015-9-21 22:10:43 | 顯示全部樓層
JCR33 發表於 2015-9-21 06:01
35 1.4 FLE has nice bokeh too

呢張相lighting好靚!
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-9-21 22:21:01 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2015-9-21 22:27:16 | 顯示全部樓層
Canerzi 發表於 2015-9-21 21:49
Both of them are excellent lenses, but I am afraid of oil leakage problem on aperture blades, so I c ...

I have 2 50 summilux asph (sold one recently) kept for more than 4 years, still no oil leakage problem.
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發表於 2015-9-22 11:13:38 | 顯示全部樓層
LanLan 發表於 2015-9-21 22:27
I have 2 50 summilux asph (sold one recently) kept for more than 4 years, still no oil leakage pro ...

You are so lucky. Some guys in mainland has encountered this problem.
http://forum.xitek.com/forum-vie ... t-%C2%A9%D3%CD.html

I once wanted to buy a used 11891 but observed oil on the blades.

Some Chings in HKLFC discussed it several months ago.
http://forum.hklfc.com/forum.php ... =ZM%2B35&page=1
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-10-2 19:38:05 | 顯示全部樓層
inzite 發表於 2015-9-21 10:29
thank you ching for the kind comments.  waiting to see your shots with the new lens ;)

Got the 50 summilux in the end

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I still have the 50mm DR  發表於 2015-10-13 08:27
Welcome to the 50mm club of which I classify myself as a life member. :)  發表於 2015-10-13 02:14
One lens with one digital and film camera everyday  發表於 2015-10-6 22:56
Thanks for the advice, I'm taking it with me everyday since I have got it  發表於 2015-10-6 22:55
Try to use it frequently. The possibility of oil leakage would be reduced a lot.  發表於 2015-10-6 22:20
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發表於 2015-10-3 23:19:07 | 顯示全部樓層
my choice is  35lux pre A!!!

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Which I see very similar to VM35mm f1.2, I want one modern lens which can be sharp on image  發表於 2015-10-4 00:30
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發表於 2015-10-13 00:18:07 | 顯示全部樓層
redrede 發表於 2015-10-2 19:38
Got the 50 summilux in the end

恭喜恭喜, 等看照片!
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發表於 2015-10-13 11:29:05 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 inzite 於 2015-10-13 11:30 編輯

50 asph 確實是和digital body很搭配.

DSC04470 by Ricky Cheong Photography, on Flickr

DSC04421 by Ricky Cheong Photography, on Flickr

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囡囡長大了:D  發表於 2015-10-13 13:00
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