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To buy or not to buy? (Sony A7 / A7r)

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發表於 2013-11-1 23:41:42 | 顯示全部樓層
Did any chings has a chance to try out the 21/3.4 super elmar on the a7/a7r? I think we now generally know both cameras perform reasonably well for 35mm or above, and sort of lacking in terms of wides.

I am quite interested to know how these modern "optimized for digital" leica wide perform on a7/a7r. I think all of us agree these super elmars is spectacular on m9/m9p, so what if they still got 80% to 90% on the Sonys? To me, then it greater increases the appeal for these 2 cameras.
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發表於 2013-11-3 09:46:17 | 顯示全部樓層
Jason 發表於 2013-11-1 22:49
Your friend took some good pictures

Yah. Leica S is a different breed, for a very different us ...

According to my humble understanding, skintone is not a fixed art but varies according to ambient lighting. Moreover, it is open to personal interpretation, subject to (good) taste. For instance, the skintone of Degas's ballarinas is nothing like that in Goya's portraits. Personal style is key.

From what I have seen, all successful skintone produced by CMOS requires artifical lighting, even under sunlight. The simplest setup includes off-camera flash(es). Some setups are incredibly complex. Since I haven't got a clue about flash, sticking to CCD is easier for me. CCD also benefits from artificial lighting, but perhaps for a slightly different reason: ISO not high enough.

In complex ambient lighting situations, artificial lighting helps control skintone and reduce uncertainties.
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發表於 2013-11-3 09:52:25 | 顯示全部樓層
MYM8 發表於 2013-11-1 22:53
M9 appears perfect match of 5014a

Thx MYM8 c-hing! This one is not OOC but has gone through some post-processing, more so than my average pic. The key was that the file was still workable (rather than being hopeless whatever I do, as I have experienced with CMOS).
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發表於 2013-11-3 22:41:55 | 顯示全部樓層
唔知 Dual Range 落唔落到去 A7 / A7r 呢?
會唔會頂 pat pat ?
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發表於 2013-11-4 10:44:12 | 顯示全部樓層
15.11派貨應該有答案
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-4 11:08:46 來自手機 | 顯示全部樓層
jerry88 發表於 2013-11-3 22:41
唔知 Dual Range 落唔落到去 A7 / A7r 呢?
會唔會頂 pat pat ?

Won't be a problem la. Just use adapter ji ma. The pat pat won't be deep enough
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發表於 2013-11-4 11:15:42 | 顯示全部樓層
Jason 發表於 2013-11-4 11:08
Won't be a problem la. Just use adapter ji ma. The pat pat won't be deep enough

係噃,Nex7都得,效果仲好好tim
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發表於 2013-11-4 11:33:58 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 C9.99 於 2013-11-4 11:37 編輯

By DR with Nex7
My favorite picture of Elmar, back light, no touch up.



Flickr 上 RangefinderNotDeadDSC01261


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發表於 2013-11-4 14:12:05 | 顯示全部樓層
Jason 發表於 2013-11-4 11:08
Won't be a problem la. Just use adapter ji ma. The pat pat won't be deep enough

but I heard that DR can not be used on M8/ M9 because the pat pat is too long (correct me if I am wrong),
just want to ask if the same problem happen on Sony A7 / A7r + DR,
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發表於 2013-11-4 20:57:53 | 顯示全部樓層
jerry88 發表於 2013-11-4 14:12
but I heard that DR can not be used on M8/ M9 because the pat pat is too long (correct me if I am  ...

Yes! M digital not possible but Sony is okay
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發表於 2013-11-4 21:52:56 | 顯示全部樓層
C9.99 發表於 2013-11-4 20:57
Yes! M digital not possible but Sony is okay

謝謝資料, 又多個耤口要買 A7 ......
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發表於 2013-11-5 01:27:03 | 顯示全部樓層
諗來諗去,都係Cheap Cheap地訂A7,因為Sony product circle真係太短啦。但係起碼係FF萬能插,食晒我D Konica AR、Minolta AF、K Mount同M42。
不過D M-Mount,都係keep住部肉酸M-E好D。
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-7 19:06:14 | 顯示全部樓層
tests of A7r with many 3rd party lenses. Worth taking a look!

http://siammirrorless.com/board/index.php?topic=1644
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發表於 2013-11-8 01:52:13 | 顯示全部樓層
WOW! Canon TSE on A7
TSE
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發表於 2013-12-12 08:48:47 | 顯示全部樓層
Just a follow up

A7r with M lenses review by Lumnious-landscape:
http://www.luminous-landscape.co ... m_lens_report.shtml
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