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Wow, different shades of red!  發表於 2015-4-8 22:25
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very nice!!!!!!!

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18x24 c-hing, have you considered having the IR filter of your M8 removed for good?
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本帖最後由 18x24 於 2015-4-9 02:57 編輯
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Wow, different shades of red!  發表於 昨天 22:25

Thanks mate. Yeah, IR photography is fun.
Believe it is due to the live of the green plants, i.e. from thrive to withered & vise versa.
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vincecharus 發表於 2015-4-8 21:17
18x24 c-hing, have you considered having the IR filter of your M8 removed for good?

Vince, haven't thought of it.
These are my reasons:
1. Remove the original IR block filter & without filter will allow UV in as well. It is hard to generate IR photos from RAW file. Don't know how to process UV as well for now.
2. Installed a IR pass thru' filter replacing the original block filter need to have someone do the modification.
3. Without modification, color photography still viable, in addition of IR and BW.
You have some other thoughts?
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18x24 發表於 2015-4-9 03:12
Vince, haven't thought of it.
These are my reasons:
1. Remove the original IR block filter & with ...

Nowadays, in HK it doesn't cost very much to get hold of a 2nd hand M8 (or M9).

The main problem with M9 (and to a certain extent M8) is corrosion of the IR block glass filter in front of the sensor.

If the IR block glass filter is removed, in fact the sensor will suffer no more corrosion.  However, it is obvious that the removal is a professional job.

After removal of the IR block glass filter, the sensor will be able to detect infrared up to its native frequency (which I need to look up).

UV should not be a problem coz most UV filters are generally very effective in blocking UV (insofar as it doesn't interfere with IR at the same time).

I have no idea how the Kodak CCD sensor with IR block glass filter removed would perform with or without infrared filters mounted on the lens.

If someone is (1) truly and deeply into infrared photography; (2) able to find a suitable technician (maybe Leica Germany itself) to perform the IR block glass filter removal without damaging the sensor; and (3) able to afford the 2nd hand camera and removal procedure without too much fuss, then it might be an adventure well worth undertaking.

No one knows the outcome, but doesn't it sound like risk worth taking?  The outcome may defy all expectations...
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18x24 發表於 2015-4-12 02:59
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多謝老訪客。。。  發表於 2015-4-14 07:46
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-4-14 07:45:09 | 顯示全部樓層
vincecharus 發表於 2015-4-13 13:28
Nowadays, in HK it doesn't cost very much to get hold of a 2nd hand M8 (or M9).

The main problem  ...

About UV issue, may be you are right. I almost forget since using UV filter is very rare for me. However, one need to consider his IR effect without normal color contamination so to install certain IR pass thru' filter glass in front of the image sensor. A full color spectrum image is not easy to process, at least for me, since I have tried myself with an old Kodak digital back for Hasselblad by just removing the IR block filter. Need more detail & critical thinking. Thanks your input.
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Thank you MYM8 ....  發表於 2015-4-18 03:38
this pink is beautiful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  發表於 2015-4-17 08:43
Thanks Vince.  發表於 2015-4-17 02:27
color one is nice!  發表於 2015-4-15 14:03
多謝 Bubu. 榮與枯在紅外影下比較特別。  發表於 2015-4-15 03:07
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本帖最後由 vincecharus 於 2015-4-14 13:20 編輯
18x24 發表於 2015-4-14 07:45
About UV issue, may be you are right. I almost forget since using UV filter is very rare for me. H ...

To save you some google searches:

Discontinued Kodak KAF-10500 CCD sensor for Leica M8: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KAF-10500

The product catalog is still luckily available: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&r ... n3g&bvm=bv.90790515

Download while you still can!

It's not clear what cover glass for IR filtering is used on the Leica M8 CCD sensor.

Article: "Measurement of the Response of Digital Cameras with a Set of Interference Filters": http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&a ... amp;bvm=bv.90790515

See also this in the datasheet archive: http://www.datasheetarchive.com/kodak+MTD/PS-1039-datasheet.html

On Semiconductor (formerly TrueSense and formerly Kodak) KAF-18500 CCD sensor for Leica M9: http://www.onsemi.cn/PowerSolutions/product.do?id=KAF-18500

Schott S8612 IR cover glass filter for M9 CCD sensor catalog: www.schott.com/advanced_optics/e ... log_complete_en.pdf

The sensor corrosion issue, see: http://lavidaleica.com/content/new-leica-ccdgate-scandal-afoot

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Thanks Vince for your info & links ...  發表於 2015-4-15 03:08
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18x24 發表於 2015-4-15 03:25
Infrared Images ~ 紅外影 。。。

Do you manage the red tone to be in different shades in post processing?

Some reds are brighter while some are darker in different pictures.
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-4-17 02:36:14 | 顯示全部樓層
bubu 發表於 2015-4-15 13:58
Do you manage the red tone to be in different shades in post processing?

Some reds are brighter w ...

Some pictures were taken in different time thus under different condition, i.e. different angle of sun light result with various of redness, etc. Different shades in the same picture are due to the various greenish of the plants. For withered plants are in various gray color.
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18x24 發表於 2015-4-17 02:37
Infrared Images ~ 紅外影 。。。

Lovely. The colour one is truly appealing!
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beautiful............

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MYM8, thanks for you thumps...  發表於 2015-4-18 03:42
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